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  would you take blood?

  by master chief in

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  im confused would i take blood if i was about to die and had no other alternative treatment well to me thats allways been a hard one one to answer and people have allways hated witnesses for refusing it or not giving blood to there own kids.you see my mothers due in to hospital on tuesday and having a major operation the problem for her is she is inactive as a jw and has no blood card which is upto date what do you think she should do 1.phone elders 2.trust in jehovah and refuse blood.3if it comes to the worst take blood and live.

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  HOW THE SUNDAY TALK SAVED MY FATHERS LIFE

  Several years ago, my father got a serious blood infection in his foot and instead of getting it treated, thought it would get better with bed rest. He lived in another state at the time and the only person who was able to check on him was his secretary. At a point when his condition appeared grave she rushed him to the hospital where the doctors determined that he needed to have his leg amputated. Of course his general condition had also deteriorated to the point that he would need massive blood transfusions during the surgery. At the time I had been free of the WTS for a number of years and I also knew that my father had rejected the WTS teachings as well.

  He was unconscious from the moment he arrived at the hospital and couldn't give consent for the surgery or the blood transfusion. The hospital tried to reach my mother in another state, but alas it was Sunday morning and she was at her Kingdom Hall. Unable to get her on the phone, the nurse at the hospital called me at home. When she explained my fathers condition and asked me for consent on the surgery and transfusion, I didn't hesitate a second. I told them to do whatever they needed to do immediately.

  Within the day, I flew to the hospital where he was still in critical condition. The next day my mother and siblings came out to join me. I didn't want to upset anyone so I didn't mention the blood transfusion to any of them, assuming that at this point is was irrelevant.

  Unknown to me, the surgeon spoke to my mother shortly after she arrived and told her that he might require more surgery and addtional blood transfusions. I will never forget her anger and contempt she showed to me when I saw her that afternoon in the ICU. For the first time in my life I realized just how flawed the Witness thinking was and reminded her that had it not been for my consent, she would be visiting to make funeral arrangements. I also uttered some serious expletives and walked away.

  My father has since passed away, but I was so glad that I was able to make the right decision on the blood issue for him.
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  I'm angry and scared

  by MoodyBlue in

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  i've been out of the witnesses for a year...and in that span i've become more of a skeptic towards any sort of religion or god.

  i don't know if i will ever again have faith in a supernatural, all loving and powerful being.

  i suppose this is because the only god i really know anymore is jehovah of the watchtower- who to me is nothing more than a jealous, angry and vindictive creature.

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  MoodyBlue:

  I would guess that most of the exJW's who post here have gone through the feelings you are going through now. Each of us has our own story of how our search for a replacement belief system led us to where we are.

  In the first few months after realizing that the WTS wasn't the truth, I searched for truth about "God" in mainstream Protestant religion. I met really nice people there, but my search for a higher power wasn't satisfied. Over the years (18 since I left the WTS), I've become less interested in trying to identify a transcendent power and become more interested in being true to myself. One thing you must remember as you seek your own direction is that it is your own. That's the best part. The freedom to investigate all avenues of spiritual inquiry or no avenues of spiritual inquiry, without a trace of guilt. Freedom is a beautiful thing.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  Bethel offering "After Armageddon Training...

  by teenyuck in

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  irishdancinjames, the poster on another board who had the terrible armageddon animated video, seems to have a real armageddon hang up.

  moderator.

  posts: 360. after armageddon training.

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  My mother who lives near Daytona Beach told me that a Bethel "brother" was giving a talk at her Kingdom Hall tonight. I asked her if he was going to speak on post Armageddon life? She didn't seem to know. I'll call her later and ask again.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  Re: Survey for US people: America is the best?

  by fodeja in

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  for every person, there seem to be things they just don't understand.

  for me, it's nationalism in more than homeopathic doses.

  i wouldn't have expected to meet that much nationalism on an ex-jw board, but then, life holds many surprises.

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  I believe the U.S. used to be, to a greater extent, the best country in the world. It was certainly the wealthiest, with the most economic freedom. We have, since our beginning, been the epitome of rugged individualism. Unfortunately, we seem to be drifting more and more into the stateist, socialistic image of much of Europe. A Europe where citizens look for the government to provide for their needs. We seem to want greater government involvement in our lives to minimize lifes economic risks.

  As we become more like our socialist counterparts in Europe and Asia, I believe you could argue that the U.S. will not be the best country in the world. When we begin to view ourselves strictly as groups and sub-groups of people instead of individuals, I think we will be no better than any other country. We may not be there yet, but we're getting there fast. I don't predict this to be an alarmist, because it may simply be inevitable. But individualism is really what has set us apart from other nations.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  Bethel offering "After Armageddon Training...

  by teenyuck in

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  irishdancinjames, the poster on another board who had the terrible armageddon animated video, seems to have a real armageddon hang up.

  moderator.

  posts: 360. after armageddon training.

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  I'd rather burn in the bowels of hell than spend one post armageddon day in a world of Jehovahs's Witnesses.

  I'd rather have my left testicle ripped loose from it's resting place by a pack of Pit Bulldogs than take post armageddon orders from a group of elders.

  I'd rather be stuck in Fargo, North Dakota in January with a prostitute eaten up with venereal ulcers than live in a post armageddon world ruled by a god who destroyed millions of innocent men, women and children just because they didn't buy into his convoluted and esoteric requirments for survival.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  Dropping off incriminating info to Kingdom Hall?

  by stocwach in

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  i am still fairly new to this site (was raised a jw from 4 til i just stopped going to meetings and moved out of the parents' house @ 17 in 1985).. fortunately i have a good relationship with my parents (i am an only child, which probably helps, not to mention the fact that they continually can't wait to see their grandchildren --3yr old boy and 7 mth old girl) even though they still diligently are full fledged dubs (my dad was an elder for many years before stepping down due to the extremely heavy load of preparing for talks, elders meetings etc, due to time it was taking away from our family).. after reviewing the numerous sites on the web and learning the truth and hypocrisy surrounding the watchtower, there are so many issues that i want to raise with the folks yet haven't mustered up the courage to do so, but that's another topic.. my question for you all is this: what do you think about the idea of anonymously dropping off incriminating documentation at the front door of the kh?

  imo there are so many down in the ranks have no clue the stuff about the un, silentlambs info, etc.

  someone would be bound to see this stuff, and it could cause a domino effect if received in the right wavering hands (of course the opposite i know could occur with a devout jw who immediately sees it as apostate and discards it down the toitet).. love to hear your thoughts!

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  When I was a true believer, you could have nailed stuff to the door of the KH and I would have ignored it. Written information that discounts the WTS has little if any impact until the individual JW begins to question what they do and see in the congregation. Having said that, I guess everyone reacts differently, and that is just how I was. Elders aren't going to let anything mailed to or dropped off at the KH get distributed to the rank and file.
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  Average age of apostates survey.

  by sleepy in

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  i thought it might be a good idea to find out at what age or after how long we descided to leave the watchtower.. prehaps we my find a patern in it which we could use .. i think what we need to know are ,.

  1.age you left the watchtower.

  (or age you found out it was wrong).

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  1. Left for good at 35
  2. Baptised at 16
  3. raised in it.
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  I AM SICK OF HEARING ENRON SOB STORIES

  by teenyuck in

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  the nbc news just showed the latest update on enron.

  ken lay will show up...yada yada yada.

  the next clip dealt with a man and wife...he worked at enron.

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  I know for some of you who have spent your lives as JW's the following advice on how to invest your life's savings will be foreign:

  DIVERSIFICATION!

  ALL employees who are invested in 401k's and other at work investment vehicles should diversify their portfolios. There is NO excuse for having all of your invested assets in your companies stock. NO EXCUSE.

  This pity for Enron employees who mismanaged their savings portfolios reminds me of the junk bond hearings in the late 80's and early 90's where elderly people went before congress whining and crying that they go burned on junk bonds. Not a single person or congressman said, "well, did you notice that they are called "JUNK BONDS"? We have a silly assed society that believes the government should somehow protect us from and compensate us for our stupidity.
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  did jesus really exist??

  by master chief in

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  i wonder if jesus did exist?i just wanted to know if having faith that he did is enough,i mean i like to have you know concrete proof about things and there isnt much proof he existed except that in the bible,maybe he was just another wannabe prophet,just think what people believe in today like faith healers they supposedly have healing powers,believers claim to be healed then later resume back to there normal condition etc etc.

  is it all in there mind and they want it to be real they believe it so much that they think there cured even though there not you see wat im getting at people might of thought about jesus the same way like maybe looking for a hope in this healer or prophet and then claiming to be better because they were maybe over emotional about jesus.

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  Well Fredhall, as you might put it, "I is not as well educated as too many others is."

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College
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  did jesus really exist??

  by master chief in

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  i wonder if jesus did exist?i just wanted to know if having faith that he did is enough,i mean i like to have you know concrete proof about things and there isnt much proof he existed except that in the bible,maybe he was just another wannabe prophet,just think what people believe in today like faith healers they supposedly have healing powers,believers claim to be healed then later resume back to there normal condition etc etc.

  is it all in there mind and they want it to be real they believe it so much that they think there cured even though there not you see wat im getting at people might of thought about jesus the same way like maybe looking for a hope in this healer or prophet and then claiming to be better because they were maybe over emotional about jesus.

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  I too have been told by fairly well educated people that Jesus of the Bibles existence is substantiated by historical proof. I have not, however seen such evidence. If it exists I would really like to see it, or any multiple historical accounts that are accepted by experts. I really do have an open mind on this, but must confess that I have some doubts about a real man by the name of Jesus as defined by the Bible. I'm ready to be proven wrong.

  I do believe in the existence of Fredhall the weasalite.

  "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son." Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College